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Post by Vandal on 12/21/2011, 6:03 am

So for those of you who don't know, the new trailer is out:

http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/

Let me just say one thing if it's about this movie that I can't stand; it's all the rumors going around. There has been some saying that Barbara Gordon will be apart of the film and she's being played by Ellen Page [link] and even before anything was announced we had all those rumors that Riddler would be taking the spotlight as the next villain, and now everyone knows he's not even in the movie.

Anyway, if there's anything I would like to hear, I would like to hear Bane's voice. I saw the prologue that played before Ghost Protocol in the iMax theatre and I couldn't understand a word Bane said. Something here and there. Fire this, Darth Vader that. I was half expecting a character to look at Bane and ask "...What?"

So! Lets open the discussion in the general forum. Any thoughts?

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Post by redeagle321 on 12/21/2011, 10:52 am

At first I didn't have high hopes due to the cheap title and the constant flipping about with who the villains were going to be, but bane looks like an absolute boss in the trailers and Alfred looks like he's going to have some nice, thoughty story bits himself. Wish we could get some inkling of what catwoman is going to look like though, but I'm still pretty psyched.

[P.S the dilouge I caught in the trailers from bane seemed to say "When Gotham is in ashes, you have my permission to die"]

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Post by Vandal on 12/21/2011, 1:21 pm

Oh no I meant the prologue and theres plenary of pictures with Ann in her Cat suit.

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Post by redeagle321 on 12/22/2011, 9:41 am

Huh, I must be looking in all the wrong places then =P

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Post by Vandal on 2/15/2012, 12:58 am

Taken from The Dark Knight Rises Trailer.



Anyone else notice Tim Drake's R symbol before?

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Post by redeagle321 on 2/15/2012, 10:46 am

Wow, didn't notice that there before. Nice little homage.

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Post by Vandal on 2/15/2012, 1:36 pm

Homage? Or hint? Will there be a Robin in the Dark Knight Rises?

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Post by redeagle321 on 2/15/2012, 2:24 pm

No, I heard Nolan himself say somewhere that there would be no Robin in any of his Batman films. He's dug his heels in pretty stubbornly about that.

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Post by Vandal on 2/15/2012, 2:48 pm

That was in the past, since then, Nolan might have considered it. The only reason people like him has objected to Robin being in any bat films is because how poorly Robin did in the Schumacher films. But even Bale admits that his favorite Batman story, which is Robin's origins.

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Post by redeagle321 on 2/15/2012, 8:11 pm

True he said that in the past, but I doubt a character with as deep a Batman impact as Robin would've been kept this seecret for this long. It'd be totally cool to se a GOOD movie with Robin in it but I don't that that film is going to be DKR.

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Post by archiesangel on 7/25/2012, 5:31 pm

Would love to get a movie review of this from you Vandal :3 Pretty please?
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Post by Vandal on 7/25/2012, 8:53 pm

archiesangel wrote:Would love to get a movie review of this from you Vandal :3 Pretty please?
Uhm, I'll see if I could cook up something that's spoiler free.

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Post by archiesangel on 7/25/2012, 9:24 pm

Sure! even though I've already seen it =////=
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Post by Vandal on 7/25/2012, 9:31 pm

Well for the sake of the others who haven't watched it.

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Post by archiesangel on 7/25/2012, 9:36 pm

Thank you!
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Post by Vandal on 7/25/2012, 10:53 pm

For the sake of this movie, I'm going to spoiler the entire review, I tried writing my thoughts about the movie, but realized I can't go in depth without talking about the contents of the film. If I simply talked about the photography, the music, or the pace of the film, the review will seem lackluster, so please see the movie before reading this, unless you really don't care about this film, but I urge you see it first; the less you know about this movie the better it is.

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So I saw this movie last night, it was pretty good.

It's called The Dark Knight Rises, and what took Marvel five movies to build this type of hype, Batman did it in two. I'll be honest, as much of a Batman fan I am, I wasn't freaking out over this movie. Actually, I didn't freak out over any of the Nolan films, this doesn't mean that I don't like them. But I don't want to rant about my thoughts if it's good or if it's bad, that's entirely up for you to decide. I only want to present my ideas about what I thought.

I'm going to say this; I don't feel that they stood true to Batman's character, his integrity, what makes him, HIM. If Criminals are still Cowardly and Superstitious, he will be there. I like what Superman said in the last episode of Justice League: Unlimited to Darkseid: "You don't understand, that man won't stop until he's dead." The first thing Alfred does is implore his boss to quit his crusade on crime, and this theme doesn't leave the screen. And by the end of the film, Bruce retires and runs away with Selina, he passes the mantle of Batman to John Blake. Is this how the legend ends? With Batman and Catwoman in another country with clean slates, starting their lives over, while he leaves possibly the most important job to a cop who hasn't nearly had enough training as he has? In Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Bruce is on his journey to become the Batman, but in between he falls madly in love with a woman who gets in the way of his mission. He cries in front of his parent's grave, asking if it's wrong to feel happy while they're dead. In the end, he chooses The Batman, the symbol that he was meant to be. I may be nitpicking, since I could literally tear apart the Burton films until there's nothing left; I have to be fair, the Nolan films are the best interpretation of Batman so far. They're not perfect in any way, and I know it's a movie, which is supposed to be separated from the comics.

As for the plot, it's really convoluted and you have to really pay attention. This is by far the darkest Batman film in the franchise. It makes every other Batman movie ever made seem chipper and light by comparison, even Batman Returns and The Dark Knight, which I thought they were both twisted and depressing. I also saw every other Super Hero Block Buster this summer, Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man both fall heavily short when it comes to this movie, and I'm going to have brief comparisons, but just to say it straight out, neither film left an impression as big as The Dark Knight Rises had.

The Avengers knew that everyone and their four year old boys were going to go out to see this movie, and they did do better in their opening weekend than the Dark Knight Rises in the end, but when it comes to content, The Avengers wasn't entirely plot heavy. It was sort of like: "Alright big bad guy, beat him up, go!" Sure there was conflict between characters like Cap and Iron Man, Hulk and Thor, and everyone else, but conflict between a team isn't enough to carry a story, it's expected, but in the end that's all they had. Bruce had more conflict with all the characters in the story including himself, dead characters, and characters he didn't even know yet he had strife against yet, that was all in the background, and they brought the plot out to shine.

In The Amazing Spider-Man, Peter Parker had all these problems, then he got bit by a radioactive spider, and instead of dying, he got super powers and went "Wheeeee" from building to building beating up bad guys that looked like his uncle's killer, because he can. In The Dark Knight Rises, an army of assassins underground crippled Commissioner Gordon, Bane made attacks on Bruce Wayne's money and the stock market in general, Batman was not a product of a bad situation, he wasn't cursed with the power of awesome like Peter Parker was, he was not solving his problems by wearing his cape and cowl, he was introducing more torment, more demons to deal with.

The movie is really dialog heavy, and is full of surprises and twists. The one thing I appreciate about this movie is that even though it's nearly 3 hours long, the passage of time isn't present. Once you get into the movie, it's hard to keep the time when Gotham is shot to hell, things seem to be getting worse and worse and you wonder how is Batman going to fix everything in the end, when nearly everyone imaginable is against him. Not to say that his scene in the prison, nor those within those cells were against him. The scene where he was climbing up to the top is the most powerful scene in the movie. The men chanting "Rise! Rise! Rise!" mimicked my own feelings, and it was even better when Bruce made the jump, the entire audience applauded. It defiantly stroked emotional keys in everyone.

Looking forward for what Batman has in store next isn't a matter of if though, it's a matter of when. Like many others, when they reboot Batman, I think they should introduce the next Batman in the upcoming Justice League movie instead of showing Batman's origins for the fourth time. Really, directors, please understand this, everyone and their grandma knows Batman's origin.

The Dark Knight Rises isn't without flaws, and there are lots of things I don't have the chance to mention everything I would like without losing track or dragging this on for too long. I have plenty of thoughts about this movie, but I feel like I touched on a good amount of what I wanted to talk about.



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Post by archiesangel on 7/26/2012, 8:47 am

Thank you I enjoy hearing your thoughts.
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Post by Vandal on 8/7/2012, 2:19 pm

I know this is old, but I just saw this.


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Post by archiesangel on 8/7/2012, 10:44 pm

So cool and well done!
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