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Post by Azrael on 9/10/2009, 10:15 pm

What about Bart Allen? I know he didn't die during the Infinite Crisis, but he did die and come back recently, yes?
No, he didn't die in Infinite Crisis. He died and was de-aged. Brought back through the Legion in the future. It's for the best; he shouldn't have been made The Flash so quick and DC realized that too late.

I do think it is kind of a big deal for Superboy to have come back also, in that I distinctly remember a lot of DC people saying that part of the point of the Infinite Crisis was to make death permanent again.
I don't recall the point of it being to make death permanent again. It was supposed to be a sequel to Crisis on Infinite Earths. That was it's point.

I was miffed at Superboy coming back - I never saw the big deal about him anyways - but I got over it.

Yeah, Dick...who spent all those years establishing himself as Nightwing, specifically to get out from under Batman's shadow, has now had to pull a complete 180 and BECOME Batman, because Bruce is...where, in the Stone Age? No, that's not bizarre at all.
Have you ever read Prodigal? Dick has always been ready to be right there for Bruce when he needed it. He was actually mad at Bruce for NOT calling him when Bruce's back was broken by Bane.

Dick is still his own man. This is part of his characterization as Batman. He's not Bruce Wayne; he never could be. So he's setting to make the role his own, carrying on in Bruce's stead. Read before you judge man.

If not him, who? Jean-Paul Valley? Tim Drake? Jason Freaking Todd? Batman needed to live on. Dick may have done it reluctantly, but it was something that needed to be done, and he was the best man for the job. Like Bucky becoming Captain America.
This.

Much as I love the character, Jean-Paul cannot be Batman. His mind has been so screwed up by the Order of St. Dumas and the "System" that he grew sort of a multiple personality disorder. He blew it during his time as Batman because he lost control over his sanity and much of his life afterwords was spent trying to atone. Jason Todd is a murderous ex-Robin. Definitely not suited. Tim is too young and at the moment not mentally equipped after Bruce's death.

There really was no one else for the job and as Snake said, Batman must live on. Always.

Also, Bucky as Captain America; that ongoing saga has been one HELL of a story.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Cylor on 9/10/2009, 11:14 pm

You miss my point about Dick becoming Batman; it isn't just about there being no one else who's qualified to put on the mask...it's that someone else needs to put on the mask, because Bruce is...where, again?

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Azrael on 9/10/2009, 11:26 pm

Cylor wrote:You miss my point about Dick becoming Batman; it isn't just about there being no one else who's qualified to put on the mask...it's that someone else needs to put on the mask, because Bruce is...where, again?
He was hit by Darkseids Omega Sanction. Or as Darkseid calls it, "the life that is death". This is one of those concepts that rise from Jack Kirby - the living legend - and all the stuff he did with the Fourth Wall stuff. Kirby had a lot of wild ideas, which Grant Morrison drew upon for Final Crisis, which is where Batman "died".

The Omega Sanction is basically a trap. It can send the recipient through infinite series of parallel lives that break them down until they just die. Some can escape it, however; Mister Miracle, for example, who has a habit of escaping just about everything. It may be able to transport across time as well.

We don't really know right now. Grant Morrison plans to get around to that stuff at some point, but right now he's focusing on Dick as Batman. And introducing new villains like Professor Pyg and the Circus of Strange. In truth, where Bruce is right now doesn't really matter right now; all that's needed to know is that he's MIA and there's a new Batman.

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Post by StarxRob4ever on 9/11/2009, 6:33 pm

Then facts are the facts..... BUT WE CAN STILL HANG OUT HERE! Or maybe another channel will se the show and wist to air it (?) The question mark means we might never know what the future will hold...
So how is everybody? :D

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by SylverBluTitan on 9/11/2009, 6:46 pm

RobxStar4ever wrote:Then facts are the facts..... BUT WE CAN STILL HANG OUT HERE! Or maybe another channel will se the show and wist to air it (?) The question mark means we might never know what the future will hold...

How about we start making our own season 6s with comics and writing, as someone suggested instead of waiting for people who or more than likely focusing on other things.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Naked Snake on 9/11/2009, 10:49 pm

RobxStar4ever wrote:Then facts are the facts..... BUT WE CAN STILL HANG OUT HERE! Or maybe another channel will se the show and wist to air it (?) The question mark means we might never know what the future will hold...
So how is everybody? :D

Oh yes. And maybe Will Smith will return to relaunch The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Azrael on 9/11/2009, 10:54 pm

Naked Snake wrote:
RobxStar4ever wrote:Then facts are the facts..... BUT WE CAN STILL HANG OUT HERE! Or maybe another channel will se the show and wist to air it (?) The question mark means we might never know what the future will hold...
So how is everybody? :D

Oh yes. And maybe Will Smith will return to relaunch The Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
I love that show, but if I heard that I'd feel as though I were in the Twilight Zone.

Not to mention that show went on one season too long as it was. It should have just ended with him marrying Lisa at the end of the fifth season. Screwing over that wedding and ending wasn't worth it; the sixth season was just lackluster at best, so it was a total waste.

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Yes

Post by StarxRob4ever on 9/12/2009, 10:57 am

Anything is really fine with me, as long as we keep trying...

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Cylor on 9/13/2009, 3:07 am

SylverBluTitan wrote:How about we start making our own season 6s with comics and writing, as someone suggested instead of waiting for people who or more than likely focusing on other things.
Many people already have...for example my current "big" Titans story, Family, is set immediately after Trouble in Tokyo...end cheap plug. Razz But you get the idea.

This is seriously a good direction to think in, however. Has anyone here ever thought about starting a web comic, or even a Flash animation? Rianna's already been in contact with most of the show's main voice cast, if I'm not mistaken...perhaps some of them might even be interested in contributing to such a thing, if it got off the ground? I know of similar things that have happened in the past.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Rianna Lauren on 9/13/2009, 3:43 am

Cylor wrote:
SylverBluTitan wrote:How about we start making our own season 6s with comics and writing, as someone suggested instead of waiting for people who or more than likely focusing on other things.
Many people already have...for example my current "big" Titans story, Family, is set immediately after Trouble in Tokyo...end cheap plug. Razz But you get the idea.

This is seriously a good direction to think in, however. Has anyone here ever thought about starting a web comic, or even a Flash animation? Rianna's already been in contact with most of the show's main voice cast, if I'm not mistaken...perhaps some of them might even be interested in contributing to such a thing, if it got off the ground? I know of similar things that have happened in the past.

True. Most of us had done it. But maybe we can put them all together into one, into something big... Although I'm unsure of what that big thing is going to be XD
So... You're suggesting that maybe the voice actors and crew that we've contacted might want to contribute, if we invite them? Do you think they want to do it?

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Azrael on 9/13/2009, 4:03 am

Rianna Lauren wrote:So... You're suggesting that maybe the voice actors and crew that we've contacted might want to contribute, if we invite them? Do you think they want to do it?
I suppose there wouldn't be any harm in giving it a shot, I'd just warn you not to get your hopes up. Also, it would be a good idea to have something to show before you try; literally polish and shine the very best pitches to a sheen and get them prepped before you try any contacting. Show you're serious about the fan project and all that.

You'd need to impress them and you'd only get one shot.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Rianna Lauren on 9/13/2009, 4:07 am

Azrael wrote:
Rianna Lauren wrote:So... You're suggesting that maybe the voice actors and crew that we've contacted might want to contribute, if we invite them? Do you think they want to do it?
I suppose there wouldn't be any harm in giving it a shot, I'd just warn you not to get your hopes up. Also, it would be a good idea to have something to show before you try; literally polish and shine the very best pitches to a sheen and get them prepped before you try any contacting. Show you're serious about the fan project and all that.

You'd need to impress them and you'd only get one shot.

True. We'll have to make something that's good enough for them to be impressed. But what would it be? Fanfiction or fanart isn't enough, I suppose, because there are LOTS of those around the internet. We need to make something REALLY special.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Cylor on 9/13/2009, 5:07 am

Azrael wrote:
Rianna Lauren wrote:So... You're suggesting that maybe the voice actors and crew that we've contacted might want to contribute, if we invite them? Do you think they want to do it?
I suppose there wouldn't be any harm in giving it a shot, I'd just warn you not to get your hopes up. Also, it would be a good idea to have something to show before you try; literally polish and shine the very best pitches to a sheen and get them prepped before you try any contacting. Show you're serious about the fan project and all that.

You'd need to impress them and you'd only get one shot.
Yeah, what he said. I've seen examples of voice actors who got involved with web-based or unofficial spin-offs; such as Gotham Girls (which I guess is semi-official) or EVA-R (which is an entirely fan-made production).

However, the fact that you've already been in contact with several of them certainly doesn't hurt your chances; I can tell you that from experience. Wink

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Rianna Lauren on 9/13/2009, 5:39 am

Cylor wrote:
Azrael wrote:
Rianna Lauren wrote:So... You're suggesting that maybe the voice actors and crew that we've contacted might want to contribute, if we invite them? Do you think they want to do it?
I suppose there wouldn't be any harm in giving it a shot, I'd just warn you not to get your hopes up. Also, it would be a good idea to have something to show before you try; literally polish and shine the very best pitches to a sheen and get them prepped before you try any contacting. Show you're serious about the fan project and all that.

You'd need to impress them and you'd only get one shot.
Yeah, what he said. I've seen examples of voice actors who got involved with web-based or unofficial spin-offs; such as Gotham Girls (which I guess is semi-official) or EVA-R (which is an entirely fan-made production).

However, the fact that you've already been in contact with several of them certainly doesn't hurt your chances; I can tell you that from experience. Wink

Awesome! I'll try to talk to them about this (...after my mom pays the internet bill, lol). We can all make a whole new crew for our own fan made TT. This will be done after the poll is closed.

Cylor, have you voted?

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Cylor on 9/13/2009, 6:39 am

Rianna Lauren wrote:Awesome! I'll try to talk to them about this (...after my mom pays the internet bill, lol). We can all make a whole new crew for our own fan made TT. This will be done after the poll is closed.

Cylor, have you voted?
What poll...?

Also, I agree with Azrael that it would be a good idea to have something more concrete to pitch before you actually mention it to anyone. I'm sure they'll remember you... Wink

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Rianna Lauren on 9/13/2009, 7:10 am

Cylor wrote:
Rianna Lauren wrote:Awesome! I'll try to talk to them about this (...after my mom pays the internet bill, lol). We can all make a whole new crew for our own fan made TT. This will be done after the poll is closed.

Cylor, have you voted?
What poll...?

Also, I agree with Azrael that it would be a good idea to have something more concrete to pitch before you actually mention it to anyone. I'm sure they'll remember you... Wink

http://titans.7forum.net/project-decsions-f15/what-do-we-do-next-t255.htm

THAT poll. Smile And yeah, of course they remember me! Hynden messaged me about the rumor in the first place, and we had a discussion bout it. Same thing with Khary and Sam. But to contact Tara Strong, crazykid is the person to do it.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Cylor on 9/13/2009, 8:05 am

On a vaguely related topic, it's worth noting that Brianne Drouhard still draws the Titans characters from time to time.

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Re: Major DC Comics Shakeup

Post by Rianna Lauren on 9/13/2009, 9:04 am

Cylor wrote:On a vaguely related topic, it's worth noting that Brianne Drouhard still draws the Titans characters from time to time.

DUDE she's on DeviantArt! O.o :lol!:
Heh... She's on Facebook, too. I just thought that we won't get any good information from her since she's only an artist, not having anything to do with the show's production...

Oh. Stupid me. We're talkin bout our own TT stuff, huh? Razz sorry. I forgot XD and since I'm on my phone I'm too lazy to move the cursor and press and hold the "clear" button... XD
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Post by Cylor on 9/13/2009, 12:14 pm

Rianna Lauren wrote:So.. Did you vote? :D
Me? Yes.

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